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jordonez
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posted 10-10-2001 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jordonez     Edit/Delete Message
I thought it was my keyboarding technique until another user of FinNav in my office complained of the same thing.

When entering Multiple Distribution (MD)transactions and using the TAB key to move from one entry to the next, I notice that the NumLock, which I always want ON gets turned off. This happens when you finish the MD transaction and are doing the nextt entry. You go to enter the amount and it gives you the error message that you must enter a amount (after you've hit a number key, which is no longer in number mode).

What gives?!! It is very distracting. You might say to move between fields not using the TAB key, but I've noticed that you must use the TAB key if you do a calculation in the MD entry's amount. If you do a calc in the amount field for less than the total transaction and hit ENTER it does NOT give the calc result.

Help.

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Pamela
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posted 10-10-2001 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pamela   Click Here to Email Pamela     Edit/Delete Message
What version of FN are you using? It should be 8.0.4 (Go to Help|About Financial Navigator to check version). If not on 8.0.4, do a software update.

What is the make and model of your computer?
Are you on a network?

Does the Num Lock key get turned off in EVERY entity, with EVERY ***MD entry or just the entries with calculations?

Are you just experiencing this problem in one entity?

Is there a chance that you are accidentally turning off your Num Lock key as you are using the calculator keys on your keyboard to enter the numbers?

Are you using a calculation formula in the box (i.e. =1000+500 etc) or using the actual calculator (Alt L) and cutting and pasting the amount?

Are you using a calculation formula in the Transaction Entry screen or on the Multiple Distribution screen?

Does it only happen on your computer, or was your colleague who also experienced it on a different computer?

I have attempted to reproduce both of these problems and have been unable to. Can you give me your exact keystrokes so that I can see if I experience the same problems?

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jordonez
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posted 10-10-2001 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jordonez     Edit/Delete Message
I have the latest version. I'm working on a Gateway GP7-500 with Windows NT. The other accountant is working on a Dell Dimension XP5 with Windows 2000. We have a network where my data files are stored but my program files are on my hard drive. We do not share the program.

No, the num lock does not turn off every time. I can go long periods where it has not happened. I have it happen in the entities I do the most work in, so not only one.

When it first occurred I thought it was my fault. But after it happened enough I noticed that it was after using the TAB key while in MD.

I usually use the formula calc and not the actual calculator.

This is hard to diagnose, but I really think it occurs in the entry following an MD with TAB movements.

I can not reproduce this problem at will myself. As I noted, it is sporadic. So when it happens by giving the error message, You must enter a value, I then pay attention when it goes off, but I can't remember the preceding strokes.

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Pamela
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posted 10-10-2001 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pamela   Click Here to Email Pamela     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you are correct! This is difficult to diagnose.

Next time it happens, write down the key strokes up to that point if you can remember them. Until it can be reproduced it will be difficult to determine the problem.

In the mean time, we will continue to review, reproduce, and attempt to locate the problem.

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DaleB
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posted 11-14-2001 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaleB     Edit/Delete Message
I am one of the users affected by the num lock key going off. Very simply, the keystrokes are - every time the tab key is hit when entering information, the num lock key goes off. As reported by jordonez, we all have different computers and are working on FN 8.04 and are all having the same problem. I have talked with others about this and they too have the problem, but are just working around it. It is very annoying and slows down data entry.

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John
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posted 11-14-2001 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John     Edit/Delete Message
Please verify some info for me.

1) What version is the file ss32x25.ocx? Find the file using tools | Find file or folders (or using Search in Win 2000). On the file, right click and select Properties. Select the version tab.
The version should be 2.5.0.40.
If it is not then reinstall just the [x] windows library files using the custom install menu.
Also verify in the log file (fnwin80.log) that the file ss32x25.ocx was copied.

If there are older version of the file in other folders such as the c:\windows folder then remove them.


2) Does this problem occur with all sets of data including the sample data?

3) What version of Windows is running?

4) What is the make and model of the computers where the problems occurs? Does it occur on all computers?

5) Does the same problem occur anywhere else?
How about in the Automatic Entry screen?

6) Did this problem occur on previous versions of FN?

7) Does this same problem occur when using the enter key or cursor keys instead of tab key? Also does this occur when entering a new transactions as well as reviewing an existing transaction or both?

Let's see if we can isolate the problem so we can find a solution.

[This message has been edited by John (edited 11-16-2001).]

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Renee
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posted 11-19-2001 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renee   Click Here to Email Renee     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Originally posted by Pamela:
... What version of FN are you using? It should be 8.0.4 (Go to Help|About Financial Navigator to check version). If not on 8.0.4, do a software update.)

FN has been updated since the above reply was written. Please refer to the topic What is the latest version of FN? for current version information.

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Renée Trudeau
Financial Navigator Int'l
Manager, Technical Services

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DaleB
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posted 11-20-2001 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaleB     Edit/Delete Message
my ss32x25.ocx file version is 2.5.0.40 It is not in any other folders. I am using Windows 2000, I am using FN8.0.4, it occurs on all computers, it occurs primarily in multiple distributions using the tab key or sometimes when entering a long string of transactions in the transaction entry screen. It is almost as if the num lock gets fatigued and decides to quit working. It always happens in the multiple distribution screen using the tab key. The problem never occured in previous versions of FN, however I was forced to upgrade to 8.0 in conjunction with my Windows 2000 upgrade so there were two changes. I never used 8.0 until I did the windows upgrade. The problem occurs in all entities. I am on a network, but have always been on a network.

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John
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posted 11-21-2001 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John     Edit/Delete Message
Does the problem occur tabing from every column or just from the Account column?

Also does the same problem occur when using the Enter key instead of the tab key?

Do the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock get turned off also?

What is the computer make and model that you are using?
What is the version of the msvbvm50.dll file?

On a Dell Dimension XPS with Windows 2000, it works fine. However the NumLock light does flicker! Which would indicate that it got turned off and then back on.

Thanks, for your help.

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DaleB
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posted 11-27-2001 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaleB     Edit/Delete Message
I am using a Dell Dimension XPS with Windows 2000, however this happens on other computers as well (see above). I do not know if the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock get turned off also, but I will pay attention. If I use my mouse and click in the cell, the num lock key does not get turned off - only when I hit the tab key.

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John
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posted 11-28-2001 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John     Edit/Delete Message
Please do determine:
Does the problem occur tabing from every column or just from the Account column?

Does the same problem occur when using the Enter key instead of the tab key?

We have not been able to reproduce this problem so we need your information to isolate the problem and determine the cause.

We will continue to test other machines to reproduce the problem.
Note: we did find the problem on FN 7.5 under Windows 2000 which has always been stated that FN 7.5 is not compatible with Windows 2000.
Please double check that the version running is trully 8.0 (Help | About).

Thanks.

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John
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posted 11-30-2001 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John     Edit/Delete Message
After testing with numerous computers and different environments, we have not reproduced the problem. (Gateway, sony, Dell, etc)

One question came up. What keyboard are you using? Is it the keyboard that came with the computer or a different one? We will try some test with different keyboards.

Thanks for your patience in trying to resolve this problem.
Meanwhile try using the enter key.

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John
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posted 03-24-2003 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John     Edit/Delete Message
In the setup of the rom bios make sure the numlock is set to "Auto" or "On".
This will force the numlock to be turned on.

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fni_support
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posted 01-06-2006 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fni_support     Edit/Delete Message
This problem has been fixed in FN 8.2
- David
FNI Support

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